tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5265338262162763789.post1283720353816424445..comments2012-04-23T16:06:28.738-05:00Comments on Wilbur Blog: May the Thunder of the Desert, Rain Blessing on Our HeadsGregory Wilburhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11339940711740974557noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5265338262162763789.post-37391855021207673132007-03-02T15:53:00.000-06:002007-03-02T15:53:00.000-06:00Repetition of a 2 to 3 line chorus (not a few time...Repetition of a 2 to 3 line chorus (not a few times but many many times) has been proven to be able to cause an altered state of consciousness. This does happen in certain circles and does make way for the frenzy (contrary to worship that is based in the beauty of holiness) that some times follows. Now Michael's points as to our need to "remember" are quite valid, well taken, yet of a different nature (I think) compared to what we are discussing concerning the repetition factor in singing choruses.<BR/><BR/>I don't believe for a minute that there is only one genre of music that glorifies God. I have never read anything about it, but I would bet that there were plenty of hymns written that did not make the hymnals of old (or new for that matter). <BR/><BR/>It is very easy to become one dimensional in our thinking regarding worship - divine worship. Music usually takes top priority, and for some, the only priority when it comes to defining worship, and scripturally this just isn't sound. Thanksgiving, prayer, the reading of the scriptures, confessing our sins, affirming the creeds, the Lord's supper, sacrifice/laying down one's own desires (and more) have always been integral parts (not wholes) of worship. <BR/><BR/>We could go on and on but to the point, I basically agree with what Michael has said. A final note - if you are singing a chorus or a hymn or any "spiritual" song, and it resounds with an "all about me" theme of some kind, you might want to move on to the next one...Randy Useltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09190600070113483350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5265338262162763789.post-61914295881601295212007-02-27T12:53:00.000-06:002007-02-27T12:53:00.000-06:00Altered state of consiousness anyone?How about Bib...Altered state of consiousness anyone?<BR/><BR/>How about Bible illiteracy?<BR/><BR/>And oh yeah (repeat 15 times) there's that old time subjectivity...Randy Useltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09190600070113483350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5265338262162763789.post-68724091332666135522007-02-27T12:33:00.000-06:002007-02-27T12:33:00.000-06:00I posted a similar comment to this one when introd...I posted a similar comment to this one when introducing your blog on my blog (since I enjoy reading your thoughts on worship) and a woman rebuked me on the grounds that, in essence, this way of thinking about worship music leads to division in the church, prevents the person who holds these opinions from worshipping unless everything is completely up to his or her subjective standard of what is good enough for God, and is based on the kind of knowledge that puffs up instead of the love that edifies.<BR/><BR/>What would you reply to that? I wasn't sure, because I know it can lead to what she fears, especially when our opinions are elevated to the level of the word of God or when we thrust out our thoughts without any concern for other people, but I still agreed with what you said about worship music.Kristina Adellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14906998932672231717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5265338262162763789.post-63531287443331400432007-02-25T13:15:00.000-06:002007-02-25T13:15:00.000-06:00Thank heavens.Someone else squirms when singing th...Thank heavens.<BR/><BR/>Someone else squirms when singing that inane song about Jesus thinking about me on the cross. Chapter and verse, please?<BR/><BR/>The pivot point of all eternity, the most fundamental display of the passion of Christ, the outrageous act that forced all creation into silence, is all about the triune God and his magnificent glory, wisdom, holiness...and we silly hobbits want to make it all about us.<BR/><BR/>Then, we are asked to repeat one word over and over and over and over, and look worshipful while we do it. I've often speculated that the rapturous look on most people's faces after five minutes of glory, glory, glory is as a result of contemplating the Shoney's buffet that lie twenty minutes in his/her future.<BR/><BR/>Then, we are sold the bill of goods that these repetitive pieces of "scripture" music are superior to the poets of the Church. Funny how we complain about the dumbing down of education in this country, but not the dumbing down of worship.<BR/><BR/>Nah, we think that's cool.<BR/><BR/>Blecch.Kari Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06660179222960518199noreply@blogger.com